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Even by your own admission, your game concept sounds like Pokemon or Yu-Gi-Oh!

There is another designer here who is working on Yet-Another-CCG (I realize yours is not - Shared pool of cards) and I wonder if there will be sufficient distinction in the end-product to warrant interest from gamers.

In English, how is your game going to be DIFFERENT?

You claim that the *meat of your game* will be, and I quote, "Simple battle game like all the rest of 'em, no need to reinvent the wheel here!"

How do you expect players to be interested in a game where the mechanics are identical to other games already in the market. Combat is one of the most difficult parts to get right. Just copying a game doesn't mean that those mechanics will work for your game. You just can *knock-off* another CCGs mechanics to your liking.

Again I think there is still the fair question of ORIGINALITY.

I think your game idea is far too general to determine if this will be a good game. But the lack of distinction may not make it a very popular game. Like I said, competing with existing CCGs is NOT a good idea. Using some mechanics may be okay - but a copy will probably not work unless the game is exactly that: a copy.

So my question still stands: how are you going to infuse this game with some kind of UNIQUE game play?

It's an interesting theme, but as presented it seems you have your stakes too far apart in the ground.

Beginning with "the best at all games" how would you represent a game in the deck? How do you track that you were best at a particular game within the play? How does life reduction emphasize the theme?

If you enjoy fiction and haven't read Piers Anthony's Split Infinity, you should check it out.

If you can get it to make sense, sounds like a theme I'd like.

My first thought in reading your idea was to a more ironic point of view. In fact I'd pictured it like rummy with sets being meta game oriented, like win a tourney, most expensive card in the game, playtesting team, etc. I'll be curious where you go with it as I'm not quite getting it at the moment.

Okay... So the concept is COOL but of course it will infringe on the rights of it's rightful owner. But for theoretical purposes I will state the game (And you can decide if it interests you or not).

So instead of going Pokemon world, I would go Magic: the Gathering *world*. I would have a LARGE BOARD with different LANDS (Mountains, Swamps, Forests, Ocean and plains). That's one for each of the land cards used in Magic: the Gathering.

NOW the game would be a VERSUS game, like maybe up to five (5) Planeswalkers (one for each colour). I am really excited about this concept because I think it is WAY COOL... So be patient and read on.

As a Planeswalker, you may summon creatures (Wooden Avatars - of your colour) that can MOVE on the board. Unlike traditional Magic: the Gathering where you *play* land cards, your creatures GIVE you mana by occupying the square they are standing on! So if you want Fire mana, you need to send one of your creatures to the Fiery volcano (Mountains). If you want Earth mana, you need to send one of your creatures into the mystical grove (Forests)... etc.

Using simple combat mechanics, when two (2) creatures encounter each other, they can combat/defend. This is yet to be defined (TDB).

In addition to having creatures, each player has one (1) Planeswalker token (Wooden Meeple - of your colour). The goal is obviously just like Magic: your purpose is to destroy the opposing Planeswalkers. How you do this is with Spells, Instants, Artefacts and the mana produce by your meeple and avatars around the board...

A Planeswalker could also use mana to attack an opposing player's creatures (if within proximity). There needs to be some rules that need to define how to "summon" other creatures... TBD.

You could make the board VERY thematic such that in the top left is the mountains of fire (volcano with excess magma flowing from it towards the area below), on the bottom left could be the swamp lands, on the bottom right could be the blue ocean, on the top right could be the forests and in the middle the plains!!!

This map (I can visualize it) and it would look FANTASTIC.

Obviously the drawback is that the game infringes on the rights of "Wizards Of The Coast" (WOTC). BUT I think it's a cool game (or could be). You could maybe even deal with an agent and present the game to WOTC.

The game draws inspiration on Magic, but is fundamentally different. In the card game, you use lands to summon creatures, in the board game you use creatures to extract mana to cast spells and use artefacts! So it's kind of the REVERSE. Which is okay... since you want the game to *feel* like Magic but be DIFFERENT than Magic...! Again the concept of familiarity but DISTINCTION.

So this is my idea - If you want to discuss it further feel free to Private Message (PM) me.

When I first read this, I thought you were talking about how there were different mini-games that you'd play against other players and winning would give you points towards victory. Basically it almost sounded like a game where you play a CCG and when you win you move around the board to collect more cards and fight other players.

Btw, this reminded me of a video on youtube about the new expansion for WoW. It's called, The World of World of Warcraft. You should go check it out! ;) It's right up there with CoD Modern Warfare 4! ;) I believe both videos are on the same channel! ;)

Well one thing for certain, people like board games with dice! (Not all) But most.

Thinking about *Creature combat* or *Planeswalker combat* and I came up with this concept:

• Each creature has Life points.
• Each creature has Defence.
• Each creature also has an Attack dice.
• Dice vary from d4, d6, d8, d10 and d12.
• Each creature when attacking an opponent, rolls their dice. If the amount if HIGHER that the creature Defence, the points over the Defence are subtractred from that creature Life points.
• To keep things simple, damage counter are used to keep track of health.

Now for the *Planeswalkers* (since they are the player's themselves), I have:

• Each planeswalker has Life points.
• Each planeswalker has a Defence.
• Each planeswalker has a Basic Attack dice.
• The dice is a d20.
• Planeswalkers are the most powerful pieces on the board (so they use a d20).
• Planeswalkers can employ other methods such as using Enchantments, Artifacts or Instants.
• Again damage counters may be used to keep track of health (or a game mat...)

So these are my ideas for the use of dice in a MtG Board Game.