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help with game title, while showcasing current prototype

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laperen
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ive been working on a card game casually, on and off for about 4 yrs. it started off as a project to settle a debate with a friend. The issue was, on whether a collectible card game will be interesting without characters. he said no and i said yes, and i decided to go about making one

the reason why this game has no title yet is because i did not expect to put this much effort into it, since its origins were trivial. in anycase i think its developed to a stage where it deserves one
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the thread i posted on BGG has yeilded me with the suggestion "Warriors Within". i like the direction "Within" goes in, but the word "Warrior" is abit broad in its description
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the cards look like this:
http://www.bgdf.com/node/12593
it is a sample of every card in the current game prototype. all artwork is made by me

to stick to the "rules" of the debate, the game is characterless(pictures represent the fighting style, and demonstrate the move), and essentially themeless outside of involving hand to hand combat. i am at a loss of what title to give this and am asking for help

i would prefer if the game title did not consist of words that emphasize conflict or anger.

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some basic information of the game:

i am in the process of making the rules in my rulebook writeup more legible, any information i leave out of this text, therefore making the game seem incomplete, is for brevity

both players construct their decks with the reservoir of cards. each deck should minimally have 40 cards, and go up to 60 cards. each deck can have a maximum of 4 copies per card

the deck is also the players health, players take damage from their deck, and lose when they run out of cards in their deck. a knockout is the alternate winning criteria, met when a player successfully deals full 12 damage in 2 strikes

every card can be played as an attack and counter move. when forming a deck, every card can be mixed with every other card, regardles of fighting style

the game has 2 main variables, Speed and Power. Speed is the main deciding factor in a comparison between 2 competing moves. Power is the second deciding factor in a comparison if the Speed comparison is equal, but can be dealt as damage when applicable

for now the game is fully playable as a fight between 2 players, but i have intention to make the game playble with more players, like a 3 way brawl, or a tag team match with 4 players, maybe even a 3 way tag team with 6 players, but my feeling is that it will go to a maximum of 4 players.

padragan
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How about trying to find a

How about trying to find a name describing the beauty of the controlled movement of the fighters? Something along the lines of "Dancing puppets" (I know that was cheesy, just trying to give you an idea). That way you could avoid promoting the violence in the game name.

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Can't ignore the violence

padragan wrote:
That way you could avoid promoting the violence in the game name.

Hmm... That seems to be somewhat contradictory. What do you do in the game? Battle your opponent (implied violence). Having a name that does not suggest any type of violence, is well, contradictory... no?

What do you use to *battle your opponent*? Violent mixed martial art moves (again implied violence).

If you are targeting kids with your game (like under age 13) well then I understand why you would want to avoid any form of violence in the title. BUT if your games is for an older audience (like 13+) well then I would simply find the best fitting title (and not worry about any implied violence).

So a title like "Rage Masters" (which implies some violence) would be good for a 13+ crowd. I'd maybe go the opposite direction (more implied violence maybe add some blood splatter to the move cards, etc.)

BTW "Rage Masters" is the title I would give your game. Checked on BGG, nobody. Googled it, nobody either.

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Yes, I agree with you. I was

Yes, I agree with you. I was simply trying to take into account the designers wish to not emphasize anger or conflict in the game title. That's why I tried that path for suggestions on a name.

laperen
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@padraganas much as your

@padragan
as much as your concern is appreciated, i have to say it was a very dumb assumption, sorry for that descriptor but thats really what it is. reasons have been elaborated by questccg so i wont do further than that. but i will take your suggestion on using words relating to movement, possibly technique, in the title, thanks for that advice

@questccg
i stated my preference for the game title is to not have words implying conflict or anger. sadly the "Rage" in "Rage masters" implies anger, and does not qualify. and what does the title really mean, master at being angry? not really relatable either. and i did not have a target audience in mind when making this

as for others, the leading contender for a game title right now is "Warriors Within" by Arjen on BGG, can be linked here:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/995130/help-with-game-title-while-showca...

does anyone have any suggestions they feel are better than "Warriors Within"?

padragan
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Sorry, you lost me...

@laperen
I've read your reply a few times now and I really don't know how to interpret it? What was a dumb assumption?

laperen
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padragan wrote:....That way

padragan wrote:
....That way you could avoid promoting the violence in the game name.

sorry to have insulted you, but i didnt know what else to think when i last read this line, but now that i read it again it refers to "game name" rather than "game", so your point does stand

in anycase, im quite keen on using the title "Warriors Within", although the closest i could find of infringement was "warrior within" as the subtext of prince of persia, and it being the same name as an old documentary on martial arts. how likely is there to be a copyright infringement on those chances?

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Some titles I've thought of

Some titles I've thought of based on your game description, which sounds interesting by the way.

- The Way Within
- Kumite
- Masters of the Way
- Tao Masters
- Way of the Infinite
- Wuji-Do

padragan
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Ah, ok.

@laperen

Ok, that cleared things up. Of course I was only refering to the name. The game itself is obviously about fighting =)

laperen
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made a card backing mock up

made a card backing mock up with the tentative title from Arjen in BGG, "Warriors Within", sicne its my favorite so far

http://www.bgdf.com/node/12601

i also researched on what i think might be possible infringements from using that title though, "Warrior within" is the subtext of the videogame "Prince of Persia", and "Warrior within" is also a martial arts documentary title from 1976, "Warriors within, Martial Arts Masters Classic" is also a martial arts gathering event

personally i think its pretty hard to misjudge between any of these, but just confirming with other opinions, what are the chances of copyright infringement if i go ahead and use "Warriors Within" as my game title? i also intent to add some subtext like "martial arts fighting card game" in the lower amount of space next to the lower "W"

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