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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 12:11
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Hello Everyone,

I have a good chunk of time before I'm ready to release on Kickstarter, but I've been watching a lot of Kickstarter videos, and I figured I should start learning how to animate and add special effects to a video. From what I have seen, you can do the animation on Photoshop through various image manipulations, but I was wondering if anyone has any experience with this and had any pointers. I know both Warpgate and Tradeworlds had some nice effects from members on this site. Any people or resources you would recommend or lessons you learned?

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-Jonathan Flike

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 16:44
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Maybe Eric might be able to help you...

If he's not being a "dick" and giving you "bad or average" samples. Check out his TCG Video that he put together using only artwork and a little animation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFPhSoVd4U

Of course he will charge you for making it... How much?! IDK.

For "TradeWorlds" Mike from OLG handled all the animation video. I can send him a couple of "Question" if you like?!

Just let me know what kind of tips you are looking for... He's very busy person, so while he responds to e-mail just be forewarned that a couple of questions is acceptable...

Like if you want to know what software he used to make the "TradeWorlds" video, that I can ask. I you have other specific issues with our video, he can probably answer that also.

I've given you a couple of leads, tell me which you prefer and I'll follow up... Cheers.

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 17:35
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You can't actually animate in

You can't actually animate in Photoshop unless that's some new feature I don't know about. I still use CS2 at home. Generally you can create the 2D assets in PS and then animate them or add effects in After Effects.

edit - Looks like I am wrong and the newest photoshop versions do have limited animation capabilities. I'm a 3D animator so I don't usually deal in 2D stuff.

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 18:30
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Thank you

questccg wrote:
If he's not being a "dick" and giving you "bad or average" samples. Check out his TCG Video that he put together using only artwork and a little animation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvFPhSoVd4U

Of course he will charge you for making it... How much?! IDK.

For "TradeWorlds" Mike from OLG handled all the animation video. I can send him a couple of "Question" if you like?!

Just let me know what kind of tips you are looking for... He's very busy person, so while he responds to e-mail just be forewarned that a couple of questions is acceptable...

Like if you want to know what software he used to make the "TradeWorlds" video, that I can ask. I you have other specific issues with our video, he can probably answer that also.

I've given you a couple of leads, tell me which you prefer and I'll follow up... Cheers.

I'm assuming the Legacy referral is one I shouldn't use since this guy is a "dick"? haha. Yeah if you don't mind asking what programs he uses that would be the best question for me to move forward. Like if he uses Photoshop or some other software with After Effects that would be super helpful, then I can figure out the other stuff myself :).Thank you Quest, I knew you would have a good answer!

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 18:32
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Thank you

ddiaz28 wrote:
You can't actually animate in Photoshop unless that's some new feature I don't know about. I still use CS2 at home. Generally you can create the 2D assets in PS and then animate them or add effects in After Effects.

edit - Looks like I am wrong and the newest photoshop versions do have limited animation capabilities. I'm a 3D animator so I don't usually deal in 2D stuff.

Yeah I use the Adobe CC suite *grumbles about monthly cost* and I just found out myself that it offers limited animating, just wasn't sure if people actually use that or another more effective program.

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 18:38
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Erick is a special dude...

jonathanflike wrote:
I'm assuming the Legacy referral is one I shouldn't use since this guy is a "dick"? haha...

No Erick is kind of a "special" dude. He doesn't always "demo" his best work. I spoke to him regarding some "Card Template" design and the preview of what he showed me was "cr@p"... But he runs a studio for all that kind of stuff.

I'm not saying you shouldn't contact him... Maybe you could ask about his "Legacy Video" and ask him questions. You'll know if he's BS-ing you or if he is looking to work with you. He's not a bad guy, but like I said sometimes he doesn't display his "best" talent.

jonathanflike wrote:
Yeah if you don't mind asking what programs he uses that would be the best question for me to move forward. Like if he uses Photoshop or some other software with After Effects that would be super helpful, then I can figure out the other stuff myself :).Thank you Quest, I knew you would have a good answer!

I'll send him an e-mail and tell you what his says. To be honest, it would be good for me to know too! Cheers.

Update: Mike confirms he only used "Adobe Premier Pro" and "After Effects" to make the "TradeWorlds" video. Obviously plus artwork we had for the game (cards: crews, starships, planets, etc.)

Update #2: Erick's website for game productions is:

http://www.starcatgames.com

I don't see Video Production as one of the "services"... But like I said if you ask "nicely" Erick might give you some advice about how THEY put together their "Legacy" video (which I think is pretty cool...)

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 21:01
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What sort of animations are

What sort of animations are you wanting to do?

There is a lot to be said for having skills in software like Blender, because you can manage 2d images on 3d objects and learn skills in making models. It has lighting effects, camera angles etc. I'm pretty sure you can manage sound tracks in it also.

You could probably do some brute force stuff in like tabletop simulaotr with screen shots. If it is just transitions and minor object movement then Powerpoint can do some stuff or after effects is probably better for similar.

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 21:10
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Nice!

questccg wrote:
jonathanflike wrote:
I'm assuming the Legacy referral is one I shouldn't use since this guy is a "dick"? haha...

No Erick is kind of a "special" dude. He doesn't always "demo" his best work. I spoke to him regarding some "Card Template" design and the preview of what he showed me was "cr@p"... But he runs a studio for all that kind of stuff.

I'm not saying you shouldn't contact him... Maybe you could ask about his "Legacy Video" and ask him questions. You'll know if he's BS-ing you or if he is looking to work with you. He's not a bad guy, but like I said sometimes he doesn't display his "best" talent.

jonathanflike wrote:
Yeah if you don't mind asking what programs he uses that would be the best question for me to move forward. Like if he uses Photoshop or some other software with After Effects that would be super helpful, then I can figure out the other stuff myself :).Thank you Quest, I knew you would have a good answer!

I'll send him an e-mail and tell you what his says. To be honest, it would be good for me to know too! Cheers.

Update: Mike confirms he only used "Adobe Premier Pro" and "After Effects" to make the "TradeWorlds" video. Obviously plus artwork we had for the game (cards: crews, starships, planets, etc.)

Update #2: Erick's website for game productions is:

http://www.starcatgames.com

I don't see Video Production as one of the "services"... But like I said if you ask "nicely" Erick might give you some advice about how THEY put together their "Legacy" video (which I think is pretty cool...)

Thank you for asking for me. I've done some minor editing on Premiere before, so I guess I need to dig in :)

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 21:17
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Corsaire wrote:What sort of

Corsaire wrote:
What sort of animations are you wanting to do?

There is a lot to be said for having skills in software like Blender, because you can manage 2d images on 3d objects and learn skills in making models. It has lighting effects, camera angles etc. I'm pretty sure you can manage sound tracks in it also.

You could probably do some brute force stuff in like tabletop simulaotr with screen shots. If it is just transitions and minor object movement then Powerpoint can do some stuff or after effects is probably better for similar.

So something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPFl4XSVY5U

So just some aftereffects flair and card manipulation. Some videos liquefy the images to simulate movement, so I know how to do that part.

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Wed, 03/14/2018 - 21:28
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I'm asking Mike...

If he uses any website for Tutorial or Effect website (for Adobe Premier). Now or in the past. Just to see if there are additional resources "out-there" on the 'Net that may help you with your video editing...

I'll see what he responds with and post an update to this thread. He works crazy hours and the little bit of time he has left, he needs to continue working on our Prototype for Blind Playtesting ("TradeWorlds"). Plus we've got other matters to take care of too (namely a Sell Sheet – so I can approach potential re-sellers).

Cheers!

Update: Mike says Adobe has a good site for Premier Tutorials... But he doesn't remember the exact URL. I've asked him, if he doesn't mind (that is if the website is bookmarked at home) if he could share it with me (and you)...

I'll PM you the information when and if I can get it from Mike...

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