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Is there anyone who wants to order custom game boxes?

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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 19:53
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I put in an inquiry to the Marion Paper Box Co. posted in this forum and got an estimate for a couple of game box sizes and quantities. These guys do small runs, but the prices become more affordable the more you order. I was curious as to whether anyone in the Northeast US might want to go in on ordering generic game boxes, which we could slap labels onto to create boxes for specific games. One of us could receive the games, and then we'd meet up to pass off box shares. I think this could be worth a road trip.

Here are the estimates I got so far:

1 color printing on white.

8.5" x 8.5" x 2"
200 @ $2.26/Ea
400 @ $1.67/Ea
1000 @ $1.20/Ea

13" x 9.5" x 2"
200 @ $2.37/Ea
400 @ $1.77/Ea
1000 @ $1.30/Ea

More printed color would result in higher costs. For example, the estimates with "TT-10-50# Tan wrap lid w/spot foil stamped logo" would be roughly twice as much.

So, any interest?

EDIT: Changed topic title to be more general.

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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 20:19
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A tentative "yes"...

I need to do a little research, run a few numbers, etc., but consider me a tentative "yes" – probably for the smaller box (although I need to check my stuff out and assess the larger box too).

However, I don't think we'd need any printing at all. What could one put on a generic box that would work well for any and all parties interested in going in on an arrangement like this?

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Fri, 02/12/2010 - 22:06
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I was thinking maybe a solid

I was thinking maybe a solid color bar, maybe have the entire bottom third be blue, so that it doesn't look quite so generic. That would also shrink the area that we'd need to "fill" with labels. Or I could lay it out with obvious spaces for standard sized labels to go. I could go either way.

Where do you live?

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:31
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Boxing in your "label area"

Boxing in your "label area" on the front does sound like a good idea, aesthetically.

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 00:52
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slam wrote:I was thinking

slam wrote:
I was thinking maybe a solid color bar, maybe have the entire bottom third be blue, so that it doesn't look quite so generic. That would also shrink the area that we'd need to "fill" with labels. Or I could lay it out with obvious spaces for standard sized labels to go. I could go either way.

Where do you live?

Your box ideas for spot color make sense.

I live in Austin, TX.

Have not had a chance to do the research yet. Just got back from The Wolfman, which was a fun horror movie.

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 05:01
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you could additonally put

you could additonally put branding information on different halves of the cover, and cover up the other person's with your game's label:
http://truekidgames.com/pictures/sharedbox.gif

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 13:33
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Austin TX puts a crimp in my

Austin TX puts a crimp in my plan of meeting up to hand off boxes, but maybe it'll still make economic sense.

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 14:08
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Two thoughts:

1) Making a box where you have part printed for one game and part printed for another game is very clever! Another take on it: Imagine it 50/50 with all the text for one game on one side and all the text for another game on the other side, and you'd stick a label with a full-color picture of the game over the text you don't want.

2) If Austin, TX doesn't work, that's okay. Since I imagine that these ship "finished", I wouldn't be surprised if the effort to split the order, packing, and shipping costs would make splitting the order less worthwhile.

Your core idea is clever and sound: Place an order and split the cost. Howzabout posting the rough geographic area you're looking for someone to go in on the order with you? Perhaps someone who hasn't posted yet will replay?

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 16:54
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I live in Boston and could

I live in Boston and could conceivably make a road trip to anywhere from Maine to Baltimore to meet up for a box handoff.

I'd be happy to go in with anyone outside of that area if they'd absorb the additional shipping costs.

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 18:05
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Boxes

I could probably make a trip to Baltimore for a hand off. I do not have final graphics for the box at the moment. What is your time frame? Any ideas of quantity? I like the split box idea with the sticker covering the other person's info.

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Sat, 02/13/2010 - 18:34
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A thought:

With so many boxes of er, boxes probably having to be shipped, would there me much a difference in shipping if it were shipped to different people, assuming the other person wanted enough?

I have no need for boxed at this time, but I had looked at their website and they seemed pretty flexible.

Just commenting!

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Sun, 02/14/2010 - 12:04
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I hadn't considered the

I hadn't considered the possibility that the company could ship to multiple addresses, but I'll ask them.

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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:57
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I've heard back from the box

I've heard back from the box company, and they do have an option for shipping to multiple addresses. It would add $18 per each new address, but given the cost in mailing, I think it'd be worth it. So if five people could agree on a generic design and they each order 200 boxes, it'd be the cost of the product at the 1,000 box rate, plus the base shipping cost, plus $18 x 4 in extra handling costs. So now we won't have to be located in the same area.

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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 16:40
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I don't have any specific

I don't have any specific time frame, by the way. I have packaging in place that is good enough, but it would certainly be upgraded by switching to these boxes.

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Mon, 02/15/2010 - 19:53
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At prices like these, how can you refuse?

slam wrote:
If five people could agree on a generic design and they each order 200 boxes, it'd be the cost of the product at the 1,000 box rate, plus the base shipping cost, plus $18 x 4 in extra handling costs.
That is super-cheap. Now I have to start considering it again! =)

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Tue, 02/16/2010 - 12:44
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Small Publishers?

I am no where close production or investing in packaging at this time but would definately like to be considered for future group purchases.

You may also want to try small publishers like this guy: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/481080/looking-for-games-to-publish-...

Looks like right now he is just looking for small games: (2" x 3.5" x 4") but maybe with the right price he could go for bigger boxes and thus increase his submissions and releases?

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Tue, 02/16/2010 - 17:50
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Its funny you posted this me

Its funny you posted this me and my friend were talking about doing this the next order as well, seeing if anyone on here wanted to go in to bring the costs down. We actually just made a trip out there yesterday to the Marion company to pick up our order. Only a couple hours drive for us though, not quite as far as some of you from the sounds of it.

I'll keep an eye on this thread though for future orders! I like your idea of kind of framing where the label/sticker would go with a solid color, that's clever and would probably look nice.

I mentioned to them that I had posted on here about getting boxes from them. They said after ours they've gotten an increase in inquiries about game boxes since, so that's cool.

Keep us posted on how this works out.

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Wed, 02/17/2010 - 18:07
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Thanks for posting this info

Thanks for posting this info in the first place. Affordable small run game boxes has been the holy grail for me as a self-publisher since I started doing this. If this can be the answer, I'd be ecstatic.

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Wed, 02/17/2010 - 21:47
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Game boxes

We are placing an order for 2000 boxes this week with a printer in LA. We could easily add a few hundred to it

The boxes are full telescoping 9 x 6 x 1.75 with a white wrap on the top and bottom. The boxes are $1.05 each. There is a 3-4 week lead time. You would pay shipping to your location. As a rough indicator, we usually pay a little under $1 per pound when we ship cross-country. This offer would be valid in the lower 48 US states only. Let's say min order would be one box of boxes (around 50 boxes)

Contact me offline if interested questions@bluepantherllc.com

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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 12:25
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I wish I could, but the other ducks won't get in line...

I'd love to participate in any of these buy-in opportunities - they're great ideas. However, my other ducks just won't get in line for it right now. Please don't delay an order on my account.

When I'm ready to get boxes, I'll post a similar thread to this one to see if anyone wants in on the order. This is a very clever idea, and I'm enthusiastic about trying it.

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Thu, 02/18/2010 - 20:01
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I would be interested!

I would be interested in a box about 9" by 11.5" (to fit a standard size piece of paper) and 2" high.

What if you just had a white top, with no printing? That's what I would prefer. I use full page labels for the top of my boxes.

I'm interested in about 200 boxes worth.

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