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Dete wrote

You got these bada$$ elite space marines given
Terminator Armour to wear and then they are
deployed in a dark space station to defeat the
very VERY powerful Genestealers!!!!

I hope your monsters heal if you can't finish them.

There are some cards that will "heal" a few monsters, they don't have to stay real banged up, but I haven't tried letting them heal on their own yet... Space Hulk was one of many games I looked at for this, good stuff (the L.O.S. diagram I'm borrowing for the moment from another one, "Seige of the citadel" Have to get around to making my own soon...

bobbyj wrote

Well thanks, I got the idea from a local at one of the comic shops around Wichita Falls, he wanted a card game, I decided to go board

I definately tried to keep it simple, as the heavier playtesting goes on we'll see if I did a decent job or not.

Here's why I did this way, not disagreeing with you though. I've tried to keep things the same for the Marines and the Monsters (we'll get to the Ranged/Ballistic thing later =) ) To keep things on the board uncluttered I opted to not mark a Monsters health until they were hurt, kinda like the mini's game Confrontation. Hence the counting up. When a Monster is wounded, you mark it with a wound. I think I screwed up in the rule book and said you mark it on the board, what I meant was map tile, by saying board folks might think you track it on the monster board, sorry if that confused you. (glad I found it now though.)

Let's look at 2 and 3 together

#3) Ranged for the monsters has me confused. I may be missing what themed universe your particular monsters are from though. However, as far as I can tell, you mentioned Underworld, which I am familiar with, but you said it wasnt done right, plus your images don't reflect the vampires in tight leather with hi tech weapons and your intro uses some fluff to lay down the law that monsters wont be using weapons. So what exactly is a vampires ranged attack? Personally, I'd like to see this go more traditional and eliminate this ability for the monsters (while bumping them in another area, see below

I agree, I need to find one name that I like to use for both, i'll try to find that before this Sat.

From the rule book

I always pictured it as something a little different, not 100% the classic vampire thing. My thought on the ranged for the vamps was more like a magical effect, or "force lightning" form the dark side, sinister energy that they can throw off (just the old ones though) I guess I need to talk about it in the rules somehow, maybe a story quote in the middle somewhere? As far as the Underworld reference, that was an inspiration, but I was using the tight leather snippet to refence Ms. Beckinsale, she made the movie at least bearable for me. =) I really like the ranged thing for a few off them though, it adds a little something to the combat. Now as to the movement thing....

This I completely see now that you mention it. Now I had done this originally to give the Marines more flexability, but I see your point. I think what I may try is this instead of what I have now.

Still 2 actions, BUT, limiting the Marines to only being able to move once, but fire twice if they want. I think that would fit what you were looking for a little better and I think it does fit the theme better. Not sure if I want the Monsters to move twice though, will have to try a couple of games to see.
if that works.

The tiles are about 8 inches by 8 inches. The squares are 3/4 inch. I don't think full size mini's would work with how I've got this set up. That was just one tile. Right now the markers I am using stand on a 1/2 inch washer and are only about an inch and a 1/4 high and just under an inch wide.

You're right, chits would definately be better. That is something I'll have to look at making up for the game.Right now I'm using matched sets of glass tokens. If a weapon pops up on spawn point 1 say, place a token (we'll say red this time) on spawn point 1, then place the card off tile and place a red token on it. If another comes up, use the set of blue ones.

Ahh, the Monster board. I will definately clarify what it is used for. The Moster cards too. Ok, the board, reference only. The Player actively using the Monsters has that board on hand just to check what each monster can do, only one with the game and you don't track anything on it. The cards. When you pull a Monster card from the encounter deck you place a monster "marker" (right now a cardboard stand up) on the tile on the correct spawn point. The tracking die for wounds would go next to the stand up only if it gets wounded but not destroyed. The monsters show up completey random and you're right, for each card in the deck there is one stand up, the breakdown (will add to the rules too) is this, 1 Vlad, 1 Pack leader, 4 Master vamps, 4 Alpha werewolves, 10 vamps and 11 werewolves. Will try to clear up the confusion in the rulebook on that. Good find!

Yes, you can runaway from the monsters, but yes, they can follow. I think I cleared up the tracking thing though, answering your other questions, you would have more on the board, but it would only be the stand ups and maybe a few dice (if they were wounded)

Good point on this. Originally I had seen this as a goal. Maybe pull vlad out of the random deck and place him in the "red" tile, so everyone tries to get there as soon as possible, but now that you mention it, unless i spell that out alot more it will just cause confusion. Have been thinking about not even linking everything together like that too though. Just have each Squad of Marines go where they want, and have the tiles "pulled" at random from a face down pile. That might help a little too because at that point you would never have more than 1 squad on a tile... therefore no need for rules on that! =) How to explain that though...... =( I'll work on it.

You definately showed me some things to look at, will take some time this week to tweak and play around with the rules a little, I hope I answered your questions, thanks for taking the time.

Shrike

As far as the "healing cards" go, I just have 1 card that does it for the monsters, (3 copies) reallt trying to keep the "book work" to a minimum and keep play flowing. I had thought about it though.

Not really a ton of thought, but as far as the "extra abilities" and stuff I had in mind a series of novels, the Anita Blake Vampire Hunter books by L. K. Hamilton. Her Vamps do all kinds of stuff, the older they get (centuries) the more stuff they can do. The problems with those flicks I think is that the studios don;t kow what they are doing, the directors/scripters might know it, but then the higher ups get involved... ya see it all of the time. Now the first Blade, I liked that one alot, not #2 adn I haven't seen three... but you never know.

edited to add remark on healing

Shrike