First post, first game, first theory. Starting somewhere and ending somewhere else.

Hi all, I’m new to board game design and board game designers forum and would like first of all to say hello to everyone and that I look forward to sharing and discussing ideas.

I’m interested in examples of how games have changed over time, going from one thing to something completely different. I’ve only been reading the forum for a couple of weeks but it seems to be mainly specific game ideas/rules or general design practices, I hope to bridge the gap between the two. So in that vane here is the tale of how my first game actually became my second game and what I learnt from the entire process.

In the beginning.
I wanted to create a card game which represented the last few surviving robots, long after the death of all biological life, fighting over the last remaining scrap parts in order to maintain their lives that little be longer.
The robots would be constructed with a body card, two arm cards, a head card and a legs card by laying them out on the table so they fit together. The body card would contain the starting class statistics of the robot (strength, dexterity and intelligence), each component card (head, arms, legs) would change their ability statistics (attack [STR], defence [DEX], steal [DEX], scavenge[INT] and repair [INT]).

The robots would have to scavenge components (pick up cards from a deck) or steal components from other players hands in order to upgrade and repair their robot. They could also attack other robots to removed their installed component cards through damage.

I found that the problem with having different classes was a robot would always go against the same robot. The strong warrior, would fight the weaker robot, the quick thief would steal from the slow, etc etc. The characters moves were pre-determined by their class.

No more classes.
So, I removed classes and had each robot start on equal footing, with the same basic components (no stat effects). All characters picked up the same amount of cards each go (scavenging), their attack ability was determined by their right arm, their defence by their left arm, their steal by their legs and alertness (against being stolen from) by their head.

As component cards got better their cost to install got higher. Also the higher the ability modifier the greater the affect on reducing a further ability. i.e. (increasing defence reduced steal, increasing steal reduced attack, increasing attack reduced alertness and increasing alertness reduced defence).

A players turn would be the following:
1. Scavenge (pick up cards)
2. Repair/Install (replace components)
3. Complete a single action
a. Attack
b. Steal
c. Gamble

To repair you would have to pay the price of the component card with other component cards in your hand in order to install. For example, a head value 5, could be installed by paying with legs value 2 and arm value 3. Alternatively legs value 2 and arms value 3 could be installed by paying head value 5.

Attacking would involve the attack statistic verses the chosen opponents defence statistic, and the difference would have to be paid by component card(s) of higher value. This would remove one component piece from the opponent’s robot body.

To steal the steal and alertness statistics would be compared, the higher the difference the more attempts the player would have to determine the suit of the opponents card (three suits, fire, water, grass). Correctly determining the suit would mean the player got to steal the card. [note: fire, water, grass were chosen as place holders which worked on the paper scissor stone rules whilst I tried to imagine a more robotic termed system]

Gambling was a ‘my card is better than yours’ game. The player who’s turn it was would lay a card face down and declare my part is better than your part, the person they chose would have to do the same. Both cards are then revealed and the player who laid the card with the highest value wins both cards. In the case of a draw, the suits are compared (fire beats grass, etc etc), in the case that this does not find a winner they must lay another card or quit.
In order to try and add a little bit of chance to it as well as fun, I added action cards which could stop attacks, let you repair for free, always win at gambling. The idea being that these could have amusing text of some sort.

Playtesting.
After making the 164 cards by hand I tried the game on my own, some things I just couldn’t work out. Which card was removed when you attacked someone (maybe it has to be the same component that you played to remove it), the numbers and maths were hard to follow. It was complete luck whether or not you got the cards you needed.
I also played with friends (already feeling a bit uneasy about the game) I told them it didn’t work but they were still happy to try. It was slow, clunky, boring, the rules weren’t clear. I actually got the most help from the friend who wasn’t a gamer. Basically we worked out there were too many cards, too much adding and thinking (you never lost yourself in the game) and it just wasn’t fun.

Back to the Drawing Board
Ok, too many cards. Take away the action cards. What if a robot is made from a head, body and legs (5 cards down to 3), heck what if it was made from a top and bottom (3 down to 2). What if instead of one robot, I’m building an army of robots to protect myself. I start with a single creator robot and I can make robots or I can command them to destroy the opponents’ robots, hopefully destroying their creator robot. Fire robots destroy grass robots, grass destroys water, and water destroys fire. I have two choices but only one action each go, build a robot (if I have the matching parts) or command a robot to attack the opponent.

I really need to find terms that make sense other than grass, fire and water. Or…

Change theme, change direction
If I’ve got grass, fire and water why don’t I use them. What if instead of a robot, I’m a summoner and instead of bottoms and tops of robots I have elements and matching creatures. The game starts to make sense. (obviously I could go back to robots if I find the paper, scissor, stone elements that make sense for a robotic world, but changing it to summoning has made me come up with a whole load of new ideas.

Reflections
This post is getting way too long, possibly why there are not many posts of this nature. I’m actually further than the above lets on, but the rules for what that game has become are for a difference post. What I really wanted to talk about was how I started with this complex idea and over time boiled it down to its very, very basic elements and made something that worked (it may not be the most interesting game at the minute) but it works. And now I can start adding the complexity back in. Also I found it interesting how the slowly changing mechanics of the game actually ended up changing the theme. One day I will go back to my scavenging, fighting, gambling robots but for now I’m working on getting this new game finished. Starting simple and building up. I should know this, I spend most of my day at uni writing programs in this very manner.