Terrain information (prototype)

What do you think about the following?

Before I completely discard the segments.
I want to try having 6 segments for each terrain.
And I will put pointers in the manual for easy recognition.

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A region has 6 triangles.
Each triangle is from now on a basic terrain and can be:
-Water, 0 space, 6/36th hit chance
-Grass, 600 space, 6/36th hit chance
-Sand, 300 space, 6/36th hit chance
-Mountain, 0 space, 0 hit chance

Tree's divide space and the hit chance by 2.

Terrain with tree's:
-Forrest, 300 space, 3/36th hit chance
-Dead Forrest, 150 space, 3/36th hit chance
-??? tree's in water are called?
0 space, 3/36th hit chance
-??? tree's on mountains are called?
0 space, 0/36th hit chance

Terrain Combinations:
-Water with Grass; Swamp, 300 S, 6/36th HC.
-Water with Sand; Mud, 150 S, 6/36th HC.
-Water with Mountain; Rocky sea, 0 S, 3/36th HC.
-Grass with Sand; ???, 450 S, 6/36th HC.
-Grass with Mountain; Rocky terrain, 300 S, 3/36th HC.
-Sand with Mountain; Rocky dessert, 150 S, 3/36th HC.

Combinations with tree's:
-Water, Grass; Swamp Forrest, 150 S, 3/36th HC.
-Water, Sand; Muddy Forrest, 75 S, 3/36th HC.
-Water, Mountain; ???, 0 S, 1.5/36th HC.
-Grass, Sand; ???, 225 S, 3/36th HC.
-Grass, Mountain; Chaotic terrain, 150 S, 1.5/36th HC.
-Sand, Mountain; Chaotic dessert, 75 S, 1.5/36th HC.

In case of 1.5/36th HC, there are always 2 segments with these. Unless the region is a halve one.

All the space is added up, and all the hit chance are added up.
6 times grass would be:
6 times 600 space = 3600 and
6 times 6/36th hit chance = 36/36th hit chance (100%)

Halve regions have 12/36th or 6/36th hit chance per triangle
and one-third regions have 18/36th or 9/36th hit chance per triangle. As if the rest of the missing region would be the same.

There is only adding up now. No multiplying or dividing.
With 14 basic terrains, there are a little over 7 million design possibilities for 1 region.

Please fill in the ??? since I need to be giving proper names now.

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I will be needing 2 colors of dice now. This solely for the hit chance that terrain will offer.
There is also need for a proper table. Luckily all chances are now build up out of 3 per 36. So with a red and blue dice we would get:
3: <=1R, <=3B
6: <=1R
9: <=3R, <=3B
12: <=2R
15: <=5R, <=3B
18: <=3R
21: <=5R, <=3B = miss
24: <=4R
27: <=3R, <=3B = miss
30: <=5R
33: <=1R, <=3B = miss
36: no roll needed

PS. I hate the fact that we can design posts with courier new. But the end result removes this.

All my play testers like the idea of forest as addition to the terrain. It used to be a basic terrain. But my friends rather had mixed terrain with mixed effects.

Besides, the tree's are going to support ninja and shinobi in other war games. ;)

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Yes, they squeeze 1 dude at a time :).

The mechanic is simple:
Each player has 6 action points/round.
Each player can only do 1 action at a time.

If a player chooses to move a squad. There is no problem.
Until a region is in the path with only 1200 space. Then that 36oo sized army will be needing 3 action points to move through that terrain. This takes time since each player plays an action in turn. During the movement, a smaller part, 1200, gets across. Thus divided. Which is a good opportunity to attack this player. Since it is weak in defending.

Not only goes it slower, the player that wants this will be doing less with the squad entirely.

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The hit miss ratio?

Well, if a region claims that each bullet has a hit chance of 15/36th or 21/36th. Then 2 dice are rolled. With the 15/36th, red needs to roll 5 or lower and blue needs to roll 3 or lower. 5/6 x 3/6 = 15/36. And then that player has a hit.
It just so happens that you also can use the same roll for a miss. But having a 15/36 miss chance, that is the same as a 21/36 hit chance.

There might be confusion which dice will have to be 5 or lower, and which one 3 or lower. Thus 2 colors.
Of course players could throw twice, perhaps that is better since there might be 40 projectiles flying over.

Yeah, you are right, the 2 colors is a remaining of the 24 segments. Since there things got very complicated. I forgot :D

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You are correct, it takes 8 action points for 3600 worth of units to cross the forest mud. That can be done in 2 rounds. Unless the player has 2 extra action points.
The representation depends on the units themselves. We have multiple miniatures.
Obviously units bigger then 450 are not allowed. They get stuck actually. Thus "They shall not PASS!".
450 and smaller have to go alone or in groups. If there are rifle infantry, each worth 100, then only 4 can cross the forest mud. This even takes 9 AP.

And I forgot to mention. If there are units in that mud forest. Lets say a Grenadier worth 150. Then only 300 remains for crossing. So you can actually seal of a small entrance.

Walls have a cheap function there as well. ;) The cheapest 30 each. Thus we need to destroy 4 of those before even 1 Rifle Infantry can pass.

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Not every basic terrain will have tree's.
But the edge of an forest will have less.
There are also open grass fields, open desserts, "open" mountains and "open" water. Tree's and Rocks and ??? are extra limitations.

Hoovers would be able to go to the sea, over the sea, and fire from the sea instead from land. They could start outranging other units too. Now there is no difference in propulsion, plans for the expansion; there are.
Where normal units can only cross forest by 50%, shinobi still can do this with 100%. They could do an attack twice as strong from a certain direction. And a factor 2 means a lot in combat.
The same goes for Hoovers where swamps (only grass and water) will provide the player 100% force.
Well, there is a penalty in the costs. But the squad will still be stronger and has more camping options.

I am completely stuck. I don't know what to choose and what is best.

I completely discarded the mixing of terrain. However, I want to have several options.
As how things are now. I simply have water, forest, mountain, grass and sand.

And a recently introduced difference in altitudes of terrain which works seperately from the terrain influences.

But I (and my friends) want more.
We want swamps, trenches, dessert hills, "impassable" sea's etc.

We simply don't know what is best at this point. Should forrest be an addition to terrain? Should mountain be an addition to terrain? What about the basis of the terrain? How to keep track of grass, sand or water?
With keeping an eye on future expansions. I need to think of a better version of this all.
Where everything is in between the grass (100% space, 100% projectile movement) and high mountains (0%, and 0%). But not only that. We want those small trenches badly. Where only something like 300 space is allowed.

Thus the map is on hiatus until we have found a way. Or someone here has a good suggestion for us to look. Hexagrapher has a lot, but not all.

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Of course, terrain names with descriptions are welcome.
I'll post a list of possibilities later on. Anything goes, just shoot at me.

An example is:
Trench (3/6th)
A dessert terrain with 50% Mountain. Reducing space to only 1800 and projectile movement to only 50%.
Trench (1/6th)
A dessert terrain with 83% Mountain. Reducing space to only 600 and projectile movement to only 17%.

A small hallway in a mountain is called trench right?