Production Facilities (bug free?)

Well.

I had a certain moment where it all boiled down to just 1 projectile that would be produced per round.
A Scarab by the Reaver.
Everyone knows that this little booger will be used 1 time. Then it dissappears. The cost per scarab in my proto-type game was around 100. And the Reaver would be able to buy 1 every battle.

Meanwhile.

I had Barracks having a value of 300 each. And they where able to produce 100 worth of infantry every round.

The differences.

In theory I could have the Barracks produce a Scarab as well. Although it would only last 1 round. And would need a pawn or piece instead of the players immagination.

The joke would be, the Reaver in return would be able to produce 1 soldier every round.

The result would be that we all agreed on a "this is it" principle. A design would not be able to produce anything else than indicated. This meant that the Barracks would now have a limit on the attribute types. Mainly Organic Units.
And the Reaver would now have a limit on the name... Scarab.

It felt unfair. And if I am going to have multiple factions in the future. The production of Scarabs would surely be part of the Reaver.

How to weave the rules in such way that the Barracks will not accidentally produce something else. That doesn't fit the species for example. Like "zerglings", just to name an example.

If I go with naming only. Every design will be limited to a list of things.
If I go with expansions. I cannot limit on the number of additions.

It is almost a reversed engineering now.
Where I say at a new design. This thing is produced by...
Still, a naming will take place.
Barracks, Light Factory, Heavy Factory, any Factory, any production facility. etc.
In case of a Scarab, it would only be produced now by the Reaver.

Maybe it has to be reverse engineered. Since in MtG this happens as well.
You need a mountain for something.
A snow covered mountain for something else.
The same goes with tech...
O no, the tech...

Thank you.

But as you can see. It is a big problem that I had for years.
We kinda like to see the game as a program.
And if a bug appears. We abuse the bug until we see a way to fix it.

The "Scarabs being produced by Barracks" bug, is one of many rule breaking aspects.
And the "this is it" rule never has been a true help.

We are still stuck on this one. And I would like to see a better fix. This in order to get the proper numbers for my production facilities in my "public" version.

Cheers,

X3M

Cool, I will check them out. I love Advance Wars. It is relying on resource income and factory position, rather than production speed.

Production limit will be by resources and the number of factories. The early game will have a faster build up than combat casualities. The mid-game will show the number of units hovering around 50% of the maximum. The end-game will depend on if a player managed to snowball (mostly by being smarter) or better resource managment. No more resources is no more production.

Well, I think there will be a small tast force present in certain scenario's. But in PvP I think I go with a task force that will protect the harvesters.

Not sure what you mean here. But if you mean with scenario, like a different mission. Then I plan on something similar like in RTS games. New mission, new unit. Maybe doing a co-op. Where both players can choose which unit they want, from a bigger selection. And thus forcing the AI having the last choice.

I kinda have to limit a lot.

Still, we did experience the 60 types for 6 players.
But that game took a month or 2 of our time.

I have 3 goals now:
1. In the future, a facility can do more in more time. Meaning, more options, still has a build speed limit.
2. There should be variants possible that are balanced. I have no other option than to play with health and build range. Since the speed should be constant for the first game. The balance is still discussable.
3. The main factor should fit the resource rate for 1 type. I think it will be 3 again. Just like the h/d ratio and thus the casuality speed of units.

With nr.3 in mind, there will be a build up. And as soon as a fight starts, one side would slowly gain the upper hand in the middle. Then a fight at the base takes place, where defences are harder to crack. Not sure how it plays out without support units. But I think I need to design in such a way that the key structures are taken out. Which are the HQ. Then the production facilities go down. If it is the factories, the player can then trap and hunt the last harvesters.

There are only 2 offensive squads yet so many defences... I think this is a bit imbalanced. But we will see. Denying resources is a good way to go too.