I want classic roll and move with 2 dice...but have choices

There was a game called "Fantasy pub" where you could use both dice separately, or combine both dice together. I think it was 2 weaker actions with each of the die, or 1 stronger action combining the sum of the dice.

If you want negotiation, another idea is that player keeps a die in reserve and roll 1 or 2 dice, then chose to decide which dice they use. But the can negotiate with other players to exchange their results from other player's reserve. They could offer money or other favor in addition to the die.

Yeah I have a similar USE CASE where players roll 2d6s (White) + 1d6 (Black). The White dice are ADDED together... The Black dice is used to compare SOME cards which have a "Black dice value" (like 1 to 5) and then there are other cards with "White dice values" (like 2 to 10).

My dice are all CUSTOM where the "6" is a STAR and means ANY value you choose...

This increases the player's chance of rolling a match. Which in my game is VERY important... Because I don't want it to FEEL like a "dice rolling" game. Only a Tactical Level above the game which uses dice to select which cards are targeted.

Note: Players get three (3) Rolls and can LOCK either the "Black" or "2 White" dice. So if you get a GOOD "Black" value, you can LOCK IT and then only roll the two (2) White dice (as an example). Or you can roll all three (3) dice again (if the first roll was horrible).

Like I said the MAIN reason I am doing this is that I want the game to be LESS about "dice probabilities" and more about "CHOICES"...

Ramon (@X3M) computed that on average the successful rolls amount to 1.5 out of 2.0. So the best you can do is 2. The worst you can do is 0. And 1.5 is the probabilistic average...

Obviously I know NOTHING about the "genre" or "theme" of the game you are trying to design. With that being SAID, let me explain the previous message and show you a "Fantasy Game" as a sample:

A> Control die (Red)

   1: Hidden Treasure
   2: Use Supplies
   3: Move
   4: Move
   5: Random Encounter
   6: Advance Day

1> Treasure die (Green)

   1: Nothing
   2: +5 Food
   3: +5 Water
   4: +10 Gold
   5: Random Equipment
   6: Random Treasure

2> Supplies die (Yellow)

   1: Use 2 Food Ration
   2: Use 1 Food Ration
   3: Blank
   4: Blank
   5: Use 1 Water Supply
   6: Use 2 Water Supply

3 & 4> Move dice (2 White)

   Roll 2d6 "White" to determine how many spaces you move.

5> Random Encounter (Black)

   1: Blank
   2: Blank
   3: Blank
   4: Wild Animal
   5: Single Enemy
   6: Enemy Party

6> Advance Day

Hole up and Camp for the night. Could have a Nightly Encounter... Roll the Random Encounter die and ADD +1 (for Night). You could do other "housekeeping" during the night like learn spells, heal wounds by resting, etc. It can also have "-1 Food and -1 Water" supplies for camping...

This gives an IDEA about how these DICE SYSTEMS could work... Plus it makes the game a "dice rolling" game... You are always at the mercy of the dice (and luck!)

Just a Fantasy-like concept... Cheers!

Jamacia is an example of a board game where the players can ise thier dice for resources or movement. In this game the dice are rolled the captain places them In day and and night order. Then each player chooses a card from their hand. Each of these cards has a day and night action. The possible day and night actions are move forward, move backwards, collect money, collect food and collect fire power. The player then moves that many spaces or collects that much of a resource.

If you rank them correctly, wouldn't people usually pick the option related to their highest roll?

If you rank them incorrectly, wouldn't that mean options that almost never got picked?

I didn't get a chance to read everyone's responses. Sorry for that!! I did have a thought that I wanted to share as I saw some of the responses were getting more and more complicated.

In my experience having developed a Roll and Move game over the past 6 years...hobbyist are definitely NOT into roll and move games. Their initial reaction is of HATE in most cases. Maybe Hate was too strong. Anyway my advice would be that if you are developing a Roll and Move game you must be sure of your market. In my experience anyone playing roll and move games isn't very interested in a complicated way to use the dice like in euro's and other games.

-Perhaps the dice can be used separate or together and the player can choose to move either way on the board.
-Player choice can be give on specific board spaces, and with cards that can be drawn or actions created on board spaces.

I just caution you to make a complicated Roll and Move because Hobbyist don't like Roll and Move, and people that play Monopoly tend to not want too much Choice!!

This is a good point. Be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water!

I love a RnM and wish people would make more of them! :)

I'm making what I hope will feel like an old skool RnM experience. You're racing to the summit of a mountain. Throw 2 dice. You can use the lower roll to move up or the higher roll to move down.

Actually that's pretty interesting. You could have 2 dice:

1. A white standard d6. (1 to 6)

2. A Custom d6 with 6 symbols.

When you roll BOTH, you get the option of moving the white distance or moving to the symbol you match (of course this could require the use of Mana or some kind of "Magical Currency" in the game...)

That could be pretty simple and rather interesting IMHO. Cheers!

Note #1: The reason I have paired "Magical Currency" with the "Symbol" movement is that you want this to be an option used only when is it interesting to the player not every time you roll the dice. So it's used sparingly through-out the game as players accumulate the "Magical Currency" to make "Symbol-Movement" possible...